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"The Way Tree terminology - the purpose - to distort the fact in people's minds that TWI is an organization?" I'm picturing this as a scene from "Pinky And The Brain". Brain: Are you thinking what I'm thinking, Pinky? Pinky: Well, I think so, Brain, but if they called it a structured hierarchy, who'd show up to sing Little Bunny Foo Foo?

Having read and re-read the posts on this thread and it is now quite obvious that all corp folk can not be gathered into one basket, early corp (say the first 5) are/were different then the next 5 and so on. My lesson learned is to stop seeing you all as one bad bunch of apples - that's actually a bit of a relief (only for me). I see that most of you corp folks posting here were not in those first five corp (some are), thus, nothing much to gain on asking for your "credentials and proof". The anger has definetly subsided for all the corp folk I sponsored, I see it was just wasted money (we have all made "bad" investments), I have now learned to just let it go, they owe me nothing, then or now (shoot, some of you posting here may even be them), that would have been some folks in the 6th and 7th and maybe even 8th corp and some 4th. I was excited when RAF posted this thread topic and despite my interjections and expected responses, I eventually got some answers to long thought about questions and am relieved and and more able to forgive - actually, it closes out that forgiveness thing for those corp folks. I did not coin the phrase: rotten to the corp but why so many later corp folk use that saying? Some of you said (elsewhere) that anger, it think it was fear but they group together, has an up side, well, this thread is an up side to that. Yes, I am doing stuff here for myself - not for attention but for answers, big answers - and I keep getting those. I was older than most folks when they came to twi and of course have a harder time dealing with that crap; when you fall into a trap and should have known better, it sticks with you - I can let go stuff that happened earlier in the supposed stupid stage of life. It's the weekend and am sure there will be numerous posts that I can monitor that will confirm what I have already stated. Another thing: I did a boot camp (actually 2, Navy and Army) but what those of you who were in the corp, that sounds like a 2-3 year boot camp experience and not just a few months like me, that's rather amazing. Boot camp in the military is not just meant to be physical, it's more meant to be mental and emotional. Just like I saw folks from the early 70's (my boot camp era) and then folks 40 years later come outa boot camp, it was a different experience and different outcome. Thus, the early-mid-late corp are of course going to be differntly indoctrinated. You corp gals and guys, after reading all the posts actually do seem more like victems rather than oppresors, it seems I experienced mostly oppressors. I see it both ways, jerks become bigger jerks and those who want to serve become better server's' that's from what I read, not what I experienced.