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I always have to laugh when these groups try to tell me that they are "nothing like" TWI, or have thrown off the bad and kept the good. These splinters and keeping the form of TWI is specifically for people who lack the ability to think for themselves, or move in any direction but a well worn path that they dont have to think about or put much effort into....... just my opinion. Its not surprisng at all that this is STILL the way they function. Same catch phrases, same format, same songs, same old same old......