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thanks for replies -- never did keep corresponding with chris bateson lol -- don't know about chapter 8 or anything -- i do believe that when you do something wrong, a guilty conscience is a very good thing

Yeah.....didn't wierwille preach that "no condemnation" for years while he was lusting after the flesh and the pride of life? He preached and he preached.....and he sinned and he sinned. Yet, when he lost his eye and health calamities were mounting......he lamented, "I wish I were the man I know to be." Although many speculate what he really meant by this.....I believe that wierwille had a momentary epiphany that, in looking at his life, he lived selfishly and in sin.

And.....I tend to believe, that not only do the newly-witnessed people check the internet and come across the Greasespot Cafe website, BUT advanced class grads and corps have been reading too! I mean, really....after years of seeing pathetic numbers in class registration, major events, sunday teachings, corps sign-ups, etc. its hard to ignore the OBVIOUS: Twi is dying out. No longer do the cliches and propaganda work to deceive the people. Greasespot Cafe tells the other side, the evil, of twi. Living well......AFTER TWI......is the greatest revenge, and testimony.