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It's not at all off topic, Jerry. Why not? Because in PFAL, Wierwille presented himself as someone who was capable of delivering a greater collective body of knowledge, regarding the Bible, than anyone had been able to do for the last 2,000 years. In view of the wholesale inaccuracy of much of what he presented, I would classify his claim as "outrageous".

Still SIT. So do I. That's why I said "half". Just in case you're interested in biblical truth--I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here--here are just a few of the provable errors in PFAL. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ • King David had a right to any woman in the kingdom • The Bible always interprets itself, in the verse, in the context or where it's been used before • Of the five keys to getting prayers answered, VP said that in every record in the Bible where someone is delivered, these keys are present. Utter hogwash. • Receiving what you 'believe for' is a "Law" that supersedes the will of God. • The teaching about the difference between apistia and apeithia • VP's assertion that, before Christ came, people could only believe what they experienced by their five senses. • God can't communicate with natural men (he spoke to Cain regularly) • The body was formed, the soul was made, the spirit was created • No one in the First Century Church was baptized with water • Throughly and thoroughly are different words with different meanings • VP's definitions of allos and heteros (they're synonyms) • Pros means "toghether with yet distinctintly independent of" If any other word was used the WHOLE BIBLE would fall to pieces. rubbish. Pros is a preposition used over 200 times in the NT. • The "thief" of John 10:10 is the devil. Wrong. Check the context. The thief Jesus referred to is the collective body of false Messiahs--hirelings who careth not for the sheep-- who lead God's people away from God. Most of put VP in that category. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Those are just a few off the top of my head, but they illustrate the fact that what VP presented as the result of YEARS of painstaking biblical research was anything but. It was assumption and plagiarism. And wrong. This is off topic, so my apologies to the group. Just wanted to make a point.

"The Holocaust didn't really happen." Now that, my friends, is outrageous.

Top leader once said: "Slavery was not as bad as it was made out to be. They were in loving households and were taken care of." I'm still gagging over that one.