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While i agree that the progressive view of communion is a huge and vital step towards realizing anything close to the scope of "peace on earth good will towards all"...but it seems there are even more steps possible...but steps that cannot be taken until that radical human inclusivity is first introduced. And imho, a next step possible after a progressive view communion is an even more whole-istic view of communion…where we not only connect the dots between food and medicine, but between human diet and the well-being of the rest of life on earth…and this includes the quality of the air, water and soil. In other words, it is progress if everyone can eat, but even more so if everyone can eat in a way that prevents both illness and the desertification of the earth. edited to add...and i cant help but feel that if Jesus was trying to imbed a better way to live in the language and imagination of the world...it at least included such ecological and medicinal concerns.

in agreement with Cheranne and a few others here.... It's important for all of us Ex-Wayfers to remember, and remember well, that Victor had no idea what he was talking about the great majority of the time. His view of the Bible was wrong It ain't a divine product of the spirit here on earth. It's the product of people responding to (not with) the divine spirit - big difference. His view of women made him a criminal. His view of the role of material goods to the abundant life was 180 degrees off and toxic to put it mildly. Oh, what else? He was a dope in sheep's clothing. Flee away from his teachings. There is such a thing as good religion and bad religion... fundamentalism is bad religion. Victor was almost too confused to be a legitimate fundamentalist.

ohmyheart broken arrow and teachme and wg and all of us -- oh kryssie NEVER a silly old woman -- you are awesome -- i think you're just the greatest -- love, e also, if you die when you stop believing, WTF am i doing here ?