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A few ideas on the subject… This topic reminds me of something by Shakespeare: Much Ado About NOTHING! There is a lot going on here, but as far as I’m concerned, its all for NOUGHT. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing, but nought sounds a lot like naughty, so (with the same logic used when transliterating zera to zero), I would have to say it's on the negative side! Oops! My Bad! If it is truly nothing, it cannot be considered "less than nothing'", so it’s really not on the negative side. It’s neither positive nor negative. It’s kinda like in “limbo”. HEY! That reminds me of LIMBerger cheese. Maybe those two terms are somehow related! :blink: If I were to rate this topic on a scale of one to ten, I’m afraid that would be impossible: I would instead give it a ZERO. Will this topic ever make it to the “hot topic list”? I doubt that, for it is COLD. In fact I believe if you could measure it’s temperature, it would be -273.15 degrees Celcius or 0-K, which is ABSOLUTE ZERO. :P Nevertheless, I do consider it very entertaining indeed! In fact, there are enough posts about it here to conclude that a great many people are “putting up” with this NO-tion. Do you suppose that could be defined as zero tolerance? And as long as we doing a lot of guesswork here, I have a few more definitions: Sub Zero: A submarine which disappears in the Bermuda Triangle. Ground Zero: The temperature of dirt in winter time. Zero Gravity: What was written on the subject before Newton’s discovery. Zero Punctuation: A term describing “uncials” and “cursives”. Coke Zero: The bottle’s contents after you drink all the coke. NOTE: If God is zero and God is infinite, then I suppose the bottle still somehow contains an "infinite supply of coke" – sort of like the "cruse of oil" which didn’t run out! Now a bit more on Hebrew and Greek: In Hebrew "nothing" is lo. This makes perfect sense to me because it is not high, and nothing is (of course) much "lo-er" than that! The Greek word for "length" is pote. Looks to me like we might derive our English word "pot" from this. (However, I suspect I might be mistaken because pots, being round, aren’t described as having "length", as are pans.) The Hebrew word for "fowl" is owph. Just like changing the "a" in zera to an "o", making zero, I choose to change the "ph" in owph to an "l". Now we have owl, which is a type of "fowl" – and OUALA! - it fits just like a foot in a sock. I am thankful to DrWearWord for starting this topic. By his example of making zera to zero, I have begun to discover a whole lot more about Greek and Hebrew (as you have just seen!). :) I give him the credit for teaching us all quite a lot about ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! I had my doubts as to whether or not I might learn anything provocative by "venturing into" this topic in the first place. For me, it rather puts a “new twist” into the old addage, "Nothing ventured – NOTHING GAINED"! SPEC :) PS: And if I were you, I wouldn't be concerned about anybody plagiarizing your idea, DrWearWord - After all, you said:

Such contortions of logic are amazing. ten apples given to ten people equally each one gets one. ten apples given to no people or zero people. now how many apples do each of the non-existent people have??? zero by definition means nothing, zilch,nada,empty,the opposite of something.I have 10 chairs and 0 rooms how many chairs goes in each room? what rooms??????!!!! there aren't any!!!!!! 10 divided by 1 is 10 and if 10 divided by 0 is ten; then 0 is the same as one.