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The Cult Of Zero (An alternative explanation of existence.) This is my own attempt to explain existence and give of myself to the powers that be. Why a cult? Well all systems of faith start out as revolutionary and misunderstood. While the mainstream of thought obscures new ideas these ideas may eventually become, overtime, what is generally accepted as the truth, they still are new or apostolically lost to the general public. Death is masked in duality. While the illusion of old age and finality seems evident we are actually traveling backwards to zero. Yet we sustain life by understanding zero rather than the seeming finality of death. By perceiving the illusion rather than the reality we are saved from judgment and death. Zero has no beginning. If we were to perceive the beginning of all existence then zero would still precede this event... Love has no beginning for if the first conscious thought ever, had love, then this being had zero. Love is never born but it is borrowed from zero. Love is creation in action. Zero has no parent because love as the seed is an eternal isness. As it is with zero, love has no beginning or end. Only zero can create. Zero creates out of the vacuum of nothing. Zero creates one and all other successive numbers. Zero is the seed of all numbers thus all value and worth comes out of a valueless, selfless heart. The egg has no beginning for all that exists came from the egg… Yet the chicken does have a beginning, the egg or zero. Philippians 2:6 KJV Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Comment: What is the form of God? Zero is the form of God. Like a seed, out from within the seed grows all of life. How can we rob zero? How can we rob what does not have substance? How can we take from nothing? Yet zero has more to give than infinity. Zero has more to teach and only in zero can we be reborn. Zero is the womb of all that exists and zero is the seed within that womb. Zero subtracted from zero equals zero and zero added to zero equals zero. Zero carries both the essence of male and female within its heart of love. Zero unites all duality into the same purpose which is giving life. We are all born as zero and we become one as choices are made in this world for us. As we change ours natural state we become one. Once we become one, we then learn of evil. This is when we begin to become two. Evil takes us away from our natural state of innocence. Thus the heart becomes divided between our identity and the choice of good and evil. The vices of this world promise pleasure but only bring pain and a hastened death. Selfish pride keeps the spirit moving toward a goal of utopia. It is only when we shed these ideas of paradise and heaven and return back to zero that we slow the advent of death and self destruction. This also goes for all humanity. The inhabited earth slowly speeds toward tribulations and wrath. It is only when we as a whole collectively turn around and leave the vices and return to innocence that we slow the progression of our own collective end. Only zero can provide a new beginning. The acid test of whether we are walking in the image of zero is observed by a simple rule of faith and practice. When we look at our lives, we ask a simple question to ourselves. Are we giving or taking? If we are taking from this world day after day then we are moving towards two. Like vampires, the occult, and early religions where sacrifice of life is needed to replenish ones own life, this is the source of all evil. If we were all to sacrifice an animal for our own atonement of sin there would be no more animals left on the earth. The way to holiness cannot be this. Only through humble humility and giving of the self is atonement given. When we feed ourselves on the vices of this life we are taking from the time we could be giving of ourselves to this life. Thus the vices are only a trick to steal our ability to give back. One act of self sacrifice through love and “giving” life can atone for whole life of evil. People become so intoxicated by reaching two that they are blinded of the value of zero. It takes an aggressive act to turn around and reach behind to what is before us. (Yes we are formed to eventually reach back.) When we ask ourselves what are we giving to this world, what are we leaving behind? A well nurtured family, a word of kindness, understanding, a healing hand, a bridge over troubled waters, something derived from the heart of love? These are all images of the seed of zero. When all that we have to show for life is a dead corpse then we become forgotten by time and there is nothing cosmically left to return to zero and be reborn again. I have provided the framework for this new cult. I ask that you keep your comments positive or don‘t leave one. This framework is provided as my own attempt to give back to this world what is of the greatest value to me. Upon this foundation stated here all of existence is built and rebuilt into a holy temple of faith. We all become reborn in the image of zero and in this image we are coheirs with eternity. Oneness with zero

That's what makes it special. Something that isn't there but most definitely in play. Without 0 there is no 10 or 1000's, numerically. Another thing is, zero includes everyone. The other numbers divide, which can be good or bad. Depends on their use, or our use of them. Like them and us-2-division. Or one, one what? Whereas zero is not absent but present, invisible.

From the Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary, "zero" is from the ML word "zephirum". According to Wikipedia's entry on "zero", outside of the Mayans- and in regards to all of the "Old World"/Eastern Hemisphere, There was no symbol to represent "zero" until roughly around 130 AD (the earliest documented occurrence.) With no WORD or SYMBOL for "zero" until AFTER ALL THE BOOKS OF THE BIBLE CANON WERE WRITTEN, it should be no surprise that the word "zero" cannot be found in the Bible. http://www.biblegateway.com/ Go ahead, run a search. I checked in the 4 versions with the most "word for word" translations to English I know of- the KJV, the NKJV, the NASB, the NIV. All of them have zero occurrences of the word "zero." With zero occurrences of the word "zero", those Bible fundamentalists still among us would ascribe ZERO significance to the word "zero" in the Bible. (Hard to ascribe meaning to something that isn't there.) It ranks with the usages of the word "OLDSMOBILE" in the Bible.

:) What a topic! Forgive me for sounding “crass” as I give my opinion on the subject. And for those who do not consider the Bible as “authoritative”, this will (of course) be rather meaningless to you, because it is based upon “holy scripture”. (But I do glean from all of you at times – Christian or not.) As far as the trinity is concerned, I find little to make sense of it. I suppose I could go into great depths while explaining expressions such as I and my father are one, Let us make man in our image, He who has seen me has seen the father, and a host of other quotes which tend to promote the trinity as being a valid argument. Such an attempt would only lead to a VAST variety of similar such suppositions and much wasted time with nothing gained except more “fuel for the fire” so it may continually rage on. However, I have found one piece of logic which seems to dissolve these other “side issues” and expose the trinitarian doctrine for what it represents at “face value”: Suppose (just for a moment – mind you) that the doctrine of the trinity is true. Let us suppose that Jesus is God. (as in God the Father, God the Son, etc…) Let us suppose, (despite the fact that it seems utterly ludicrous for a father to actually be his own son), that somehow they are truly equivalent and co-equal. Let us then, by sheer logic, “plug this into the scriptures” to see what they plainly say about themselves in light of this similarity. I will now substitute these terms at random. For instance, when the Bible mentions Jesus, I may replace it by God. And when it mentions God, I may replace it by Jesus – assuming these to be equivalent terms, there should be no problem. Fair enough? (It should be!) Changes are marked in bold text. Jn 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father are you? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father myself: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father me also. Making a lot of sense to me so far! :lol: Jn 1:18 No man hath seen God Jesus at any time…. :huh: Jn 8 29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me I have not left myself alone; for I do always those things that please him myself. Supposing Jesus is God can become quite entertaining! There are literally hundreds of similar nonsensical things to be seen as you spend a pleasant afternoon just reading and substituting this way. (I do it at times just for a bit of comic relief!) :B) Judge me if you like, but at least I’m being honest about what I believe, as are most here. But on a more serious note, the “classic” one is this: (Jesus is speaking) Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. If this is really God speaking, this verse informs us that we can do greater works than God. For those who want to entertain such a thought, you are treading upon very treacherous ground. Lucifer tried to be greater than God once, and failed. He was given a new name – the devil! Consider this deeply and make up your mind if the scriptures are acually saying Jesus is truly somehow his own Father! One of the questions in this thread is whether or not believing the trinity is necessary to become born again. The simple truth about the “new birth” or “becoming saved” is this: Ro 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. If Jesus was God then there was a time when God was dead. (so much for being eternal!) And if God were dead, He would (of necessity) be subject to His own truth on that subject: Ec 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing… If God were dead, then there was a time in which He did not know anything at all. (how silly!) Then just how could He raise Himself from the dead? :unsure: My take on this is that if a person believes Jesus is God and God is Jesus, then it is utterly impossible to believe (according to all scripture) that Jesus was raised from the dead. Not being able to believe that would negate someone from believing Ro 10:9 and therefore, could not become saved. :( And as far as the other thing in Ro 10:9 is concerned, Confessing Jesus as the lord in your life. To believe Jesus is God would say that there is “another Jesus” in addition to the one who is not God. Confessing the Jesus who says he is God might be confessing the wrong one, preventing salvation on both counts. SPEC :)

Do you practice being obtuse for a living, or is this just a hobby?

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