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This is strange. I can't get through directly. Whenever I try "Down for everyone or just me", it confirms the site is down (including right now, both ways.) I tried 4 other website checkers, and all 4 say it's up right now. https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/ctcoftexas.com.html https://notopening.com/site/ctcoftexas.com https://downinspector.com/check/ctcoftexas.com https://tools.iplocation.net/is-it-down Unsure why one of them, plus myself, are having trouble getting in if all the rest are not.

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Wild swing here.... "Gary Oldman"?????

It seems familiar, but nothing is clicking so far.

I didn't say "too mechanical", I wrote "a very mechanical view of how it all 'worked'" Reducing the spiritual life, "pneumatikos", to lists and behavioral exercises is counter productive. PFAL and VPW's teachings were an assemblage of many influences and sources, including the positive-thinking movement (Peale, Hill, Carnegie) and others he ran across like Glenn Clark (who was influenced by Frank Rawlins) and all of the Camps and "advance/retreats" that were cropping up. There's a huge range of material he gathered from that includes B G Leonard and Bullinger, and others from whom he gathered the majority of his form and structure of class teaching. (parts of PFAL resemble scaled down portions of the book "How to Enjoy the Bible", etc. etc. etc. etc) PFAL and VPW's products were assemblages of the work of many others that he repackaged and marketed as his own. He was a product of the new-age, positive thinking movement too, the Glenn Clarks (camps, "advances", levers or prayer, athletes of the spirit were all areas he had done work in), and writers like Carnegie, Peale, Hill, and others. To the extent I knew him for 17 years and worked for him for 7 I would say from my point of reference I learned him to be a mix of intentions, goals and motives, and not all bad ones or misguided. He was however singular and self promoting in his work so he never went beyond that, he wasn't exceptionally visionary, he was tied too much to the past and his own interests. His most interesting ideas never got off the ground or accomplished, and that's not to say they were "his" ideas or original, simply that there were some things he discussed doing back in the last 60's and early 70's that he never put effort into accomplishing. Once I saw that they weren't going to happen, I began to lose specific interest in devoting time and effort to to the Way's work. But that was me, and it was always a "work in progress". The original question asks about "revelation" and "impartation" "manifestations. The manner in which VPW teaches those in the Advanced Class starts with a categorical organization and they're broken out in sections. Beyond that as an exercise to learn them, I would never think of them that way - life is too fast, too spontaneous, too much happening at once. The spirit is both quick and powerful, and eternally efficient.

"Lookin' out at the road rushin' under my wheels"

I'm surprised a wee bit, I thought this was in your wheelhouse waysider. WordWolf may know this. I wait another day before I reveal.

I'm stumped.

I don't know anything about narcissistic children, but I know something about the full blown disorder (NPD) in adults. Adults that develop this disorder usually suffered trauma/abuse as children. This abuse is usually by a parent who is an NPD/sociopath themself. Often the abuse is severe neglect or abandonment. It can even be overvaluing the child. (This may seem counterintuitive, but it's the academic term for "spoiled rotten.") The NPD seeks to destroy that which they did not experience. A form of revenge? Envy? I don't know why exactly, but narcissists are attracted to good people who are strong, honest, kind, generous, empathetic, loved and authentic. They didn't have any of that as children. NPDs are incapable of honestly expressing and living those qualities. Others who exemplify and embody those qualities are targeted. And they are then systematically destroyed. Self esteem isn't the primary reason. Empathy is a significant factor.

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Mmmph I was sad this ended. I checked again and I'm having no problems accessing the entire site. I wonder if your location outside the U.S. could affect access? A new firewall, perhaps? Idk. I'm not an IT guy. It's frustrating.

I just figured somebody would have an idea by now. Here's some more. This is the age of machinery A mechanical nightmare The wonderful world of technology Napalm, hydrogen bombs, biological warfare My mama said she can't understand me She can't see my motivation Just give me some security I'm a paranoid schizoid product ................ You keep all your smart modern writers Give me William Shakespeare You keep all your smart modern painters I'll take Rembrandt, Titian, Da Vinci and Gainsborough Girl we gotta get out of here We gotta find a solution .................................but I don't want, I don't want to die here Girl, we gotta get out of here We gotta find a solution .................................. but I don't want, I don't want to be here I was born in a welfare state Ruled by bureaucracy Controlled by civil servants And people dressed in grey Got no privacy, got no liberty Don't want to get myself shot down By some trigger happy policeman Gotta keep a hold on my sanity ................................ but I don't want to die here

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You (plural) apparently CAN see, because that was the correct answer. It was in the scene discussing the meteorite that fell in Addis Ababa (Ethiopia's capital.)

Ah, how sure are you I answered my own post? By now, I'm confident Raf would prefer if anyone jumped in here as a de facto "free post".

*checks* As of right now, I can't get in, and the website checker confirms it's down. I hope this is temporary.

The more I look into things and consider them, the more convinced I become that vpw faked ALL the "manifestations", from start to finish. How he could fake the "utterance" manifestations, we've discussed before. Anyone could make sounds, anyone could claim they're reciting a message from God. Prime the pump first by instructing the gullible public how the things are SUPPOSED to look and sound- even if the results are nothing at all like the real thing- and you're golden. Your only danger is someone catching on- especially if they encounter the real thing or otherwise realize yours don't resemble what the real thing is supposed to look like. It also explains why vpw had an explanation as to why there were 2 completely different types of prophecy, one of which had nothing to do with prophesying. So, teach people to make sounds, teach people to compose a "message from God Almighty", and keep expectations high, and you'll convince them that the sounds and the "messages" both came from God Almighty and not their expectations. This is how it COULD be done. (Start another thread if you want to discuss this further.) How to fake the "information" manifestations is a bit trickier, but it's do-able. Don't overplay your hand, keep it low-key or people will catch on. Periodically pretend that you're receiving Divine Revelation at that moment. Reveal something people didn't know you knew. vpw was fond of listening to the John Birch Society's tinfoil hat conspiracies, then coming forth in private with "revelation" about conspiracies in the US. That's how twi got into thinking 1976 was going to be the end of the US. Did it stop with vpw's death? No- and if you were listening to twi as Y2K approached, you'd know that. That was ANOTHER time the world "ended." Although both times, the world was saved because people were in twi praying, and disaster was averted. (Some people really bought that. Both times. Some of the same people bought that both times. A few people still buy that.) But it's harder to fake Divine Revelation when you don't have enough really good information to run with. So, you make up for it by having accounts of you getting revelation be either general ("he gets revelation") or second-hand with people inventing instances they "saw". You can also add a few "a few years ago, this happened but there are no witnesses" stories. We saw that with vpw's visit to India, where his account was full of miracles, and people loved him- but he never visited nor spoke to them again afterwards, not one word. Other people's accounts of the same trip (like Mrs W) skip virtually all the miracles and all the adoration, and are vague when they're not skipped entirely. So, we got stories like "vpw walked around a racetrack and got revelation showing people's hearts as white or black." As for the "impartation/power" manifestations, those are harder still to fake. vpw had stories circulating about him doing things from people who supposedly were there. When it was time for actual results, vpw fell short. Either he had other people minister healing and so on, or when something went wrong, he screamed at someone for failing to predict problems and so on. There are no accounts of "the tent top was going to collapse from flooding, so he prayed, and all that water just vanished"- instead, someone cut a hole and he blamed people. There's no accounts of "we all got together, the electricity went out, we heard him praying faintly, then suddenly the generators came back to life and there was much rejoicing." Instead, we had him admit he was still standing there. For someone who allegedly gets all sorts of prayers answered in miracles, why didn't he even ASK for one then? The most sensible answer- he knew it was pointless, he knew he wouldn't get answered. Oh, the further away the eyewitnesses were, the more miraculous things happened around him- miraculous healings in India, miraculous snowstorms kept happening to him in the US, and so on. As to the second of those, someone checked at the time, and found there was NO snowstorm at the time- he was caught lying. As to the first of those, the reaction was fascinating. Someone checked afterwards, and there was no snow. They went up to vpw, and said so. This was a man who insisted that he was snowed in, in a city. ALL traffic was STOPPED. NO trains. NO planes. NO buses. Sounds like a blizzard. I've lived through those. (For the record, in NYC, the subways usually can be kept running, even in a blizzard, and I used the subway in any blizzard or snow storm that stopped the buses.) He said this over and over. When someone came up and said there was no snow at all- not even one flake, what is the obvious response? If someone claimed there was no snow in the last blizzard I trudged through, I would be rather emphatic. Check again! I spent most of an hour either standing or trudging, and did a lot of cardio just getting to and from the subway. To say nothing of the 10 hours that followed, all of which were affected by the heavy snow. I would be clear they either were checking the wrong date, or the wrong city. IF vpw had lived through one, his response should have been similar. (It would be like someone trying to tell me the Twin Towers never fell.) What was his reaction? Nothing of the kind! Immediately, he CHANGED HIS STORY. He claimed that there must not have been any actual snow at all, but instead when he tried to arrange passage, he spoke on the phone, repeatedly, to angels who lied to him each time. (So, you can believe angels lied, or you can believe wierwille lied. According to vpw, ALL men are liars.) When it comes to teaching on the other 6, I think that vpw paid close attention to what other people said, and did his best to memorize them and regurgitate them at will. So, he could SOUND like he knew the subject, but that was only because he was RECITING what he memorized. His understanding was about as deep as that of a person who reads a wikipedia page aloud and people think he's an expert on that subject. His knowledge was spotty and intermittent. His definitions changed from Leonard's definitions. Those changes never made anything clearer, they just added syllables and ten-dollar words. That's not the actions of a man trying to make knowledge clearer- those are the actions of a man hiding that he doesn't know what he's talking about! Geer later came along and changed some definitions. In each case, each attempt at least TRIED to make things clearer. That was a man TRYING to make things easier to be understood. (Whether or not his conclusions were correct, I would not fault his intention.) IMHO, in some of the changes, he was successful, and in some, he was not because he let his interpretation guide things. Interestingly enough, in the case of at least one change, he fixed something that I thought was a rather basic problem with the definition. I went back later. That was part of Leonard's definition. Instead of fixing an elementary problem with it, vpw added lots of SAT vocabulary words to it, then taught it. I was a student who hadn't studied that subject under ANY of them, and I realized the definition had a problem- and what it was. vpw TAUGHT the thing for YEARS and never identified it. Why? He was reciting things, and only "understood" them in a rote way. If were forced to explain them using completely different words, he would have been unable. So, if you find vpw's approach is too mechanical, you're probably right. His "understanding" was from a shallow, intellect-only level of book-learning, and lacked completely any actual EXPERIENCE of subjects explaining EXPERIENCE.

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Since WW answered his own post, he's technically up... George

Still a free post... George

I guess this is still a free post, though Raf is technically up... George

Interesting. I forgot that Columbo (along with others like Banacek, McCloud) were rotated in NBC's Mystery Movie of the Week. Still, Columbo appeared more often than twice a year, and MMotW didn't go 12 seasons. George